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What Hasan Did Before the Shooting
On Thursday morning, Major Nidal Malik Hasan gave most of his belongings to his neighbor. Awhile later, a security-camera video showed him at a convenience store on Thursday morning buying snacks in a white robe and skullcap—traditional Muslim garb. Now, investigators are looking into the motive of the alleged Fort Hood shooter. The son of Palestinian immigrants, Hasan reportedly resented other soldiers who harassed him for being a Muslim and was distraught about his upcoming six-month deployment to Afghanistan. The death toll of his rampage rose to 13 on Friday, after a hospitalized victim died.
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The fact that Hasan gave away his belongings is additional evidence that his mass murder of his fellow soldiers was a pre-meditated and cold-blooded attack rather then a snap decision or a psychotic episode.
What would you know about mental illness, your own has gone untreated. His actions could also have indicated that he intended to take his own life, and does not prove that he premeditated the attack on others.
Why are you defending a mass murderer?
Hi cbeenthere:
Rhonda asked you a very good question.
Why are you are trying to make excuses and find justifications for a mass murderer? Hasan took two weapons to the crime scene and you don't think he premeditated the murders? Please explain why you think Hasan took two guns and why he started shooting people with the guns if he wasn't trying to murder them?
Of all people, you and Rhonda making an intelligent judgment about anything that is taking place in this country? HA ! Don't make me laugh.
As long as we are talking mental illness, I don't want to converse with psychos.
And by the by Plantarwart-
I never said he did not murder, you are a fool.
Right-o.
Rhonda----we can only hope the group that eventually tries Mr. Hasan for murder has people on it who can understand the concept of pre-meditation. ---
cheenthere I advise you, if ever approached by a mad man yelling "ALLAHU AKBAR" run like hell.
I don't know Rhonda, why are you crass?
Thanks anyway winston-
I advise myself.
Cheenthere, I started writing what I really think of you, but realized my comment wasn't ready for prime time. Neither is what I really think about this Hasan character, just know that it is taking all of the civility in the world, not to tell you and him what you definitely deserve to hear!!!!!
Plantagenet:
Economist
Attorney
Social Scientist
Philosopher
Judge
Political Science Pundit
And
Psychiatrist!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!
you missed accounting theory :( without accounting theory, how can someone be accountable in such a position. Actually alot of those things are common sense.
A fine list, socwokldy, if not exhaustive. You left out Military Strategist and Secret Agent Man, for example.
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America's obsession with managing and controlling this region of the world has gone over the top. Nation building is not a military mission, and our soldiers are increasingly feeling the frustrations and futility of the enterprise. Expect more eruptions such as this to occur when both troops and civilians (christian or muslim) are equally victimized by a foreign policy strategy gone terribly wrong.
A voice of sanity khepri, at last, because I have lost it.
Major Nidal Malik Hasan did not kill as many people
as Timothy McVeigh, an honorably discharged combat veteran.
Hey, wasn't Timothy McVeigh a Christian?
Why are you such an apologist for people who want to do us harm.
I just asked a simple question. Why are you such an apologist for Christian terrorists, like Timothy McVeigh, who murdered so many Americans?
The answer to that is a simple "No."
When will you folks stop relying on an agendra-driven media for your information? Listen/watch for entertainment or ideology, but get your facts from a reality-based environment unless you prefer being underinformed and foolish.
Just to set the record straight, McVeigh was a Roman Catholic, according to the interview he did with Time mazazine.
Christians who do horrific things are denied by other Christians, which they think makes it all okay. Like this comment I found on a website:" How anyone could say McVeigh was a Christian is beyond this writer's mind. His action and deeds definitely does not reflect that of a virtuous believer."
By that definition, the self-professed Christians at this website ain't.
I understand his act is senseless, but so much of this does not make sense, I understand partly that is because it is senseless.
Why couldn't he get out of the military? Some reports said he had been in the military for over 20 years.
How did he know that he was not going to kill muslims in the processing room. Some counts say there are possibly around 20,000 muslims, in the US military, and religion does not have to be revealed.
And if he was blogging pro suicide bombing, when didn't they put him on some form of medical leave, or something?
There is something missing. Probably situational more than anything.
When Muslims are buried in military cemeteries, their gravestones are marked with a symbol of their religion, so it is revealed then, if not before. I would think it would be before, in case there is a need when they are in danger when in war. I don't know for sure. Good questions.
Muslims died during the 9/11 attacks on the world trade towers. Muslims died during the attacks by Muslim radicals on the transit systems in London and Madrid. Muslims died during the terror attacks in Bali. Muslims died during the attack on India. Tens of thousands of Muslims were killed by suicide bombings and terror attacks in Iraq, and now more thousands are killed in Pakistan and Afghanistan.
Muslims are quite capable of killing other Muslims during mass murder attacks and terrorism attacks.
And Christians are quite capable of killing other Chrisitans during mass murder attacks and terrorism attacks - like Timothy McVeigh.
Is Mcveigh worse than this guy or vice versa? Only retards would argue about the intelligence capabilities of two insane terrorists by comparing body count.
Forgive them Lord, for they are lost and know not what they do!!!!
One wonders why there would be kneejerk apologists for anything or anyone. But it must be a real window into the soul to watch people trip over themself to minimize the acts of mass murderers, Islamically-inspired or otherwise.
No one, but no one has minimized the tragedy at Ft. Hood. Do your own soul searching.
The human mind is unique, vis the animal, so we are told. All religions say Peace and Love. and the very same religions followers indulge in ghastly actions.After reading all the comments above, i feel do we first know ourselves before we talk of others nature and behavior..!!!
All religions indoctrinate their sheep with the belief
that their believers are different, special, and better than all others.
Some christer white supremacist claim Timothy McVeigh was not a christer . . .
. . . because christers don't murder, christers are different, . . .
. . . christers are better than everyone else.
This simple fact explains most of the violence in the world.
Once a moron buys into the fantasy that they have an invisible god
and that they are destined for candyland heaven for all eternity,
no matter what, it isn't long before these believers find themselves
capable of committing any atrocity.
christer white supremacist Lt. William Calley helped to murder
400 unarmed women and children.
christer white supremacist Calley spent a few years in jail, but that was it.
Calley now works as a jeweler in South Carolina,
a state where christer white supremacists are welcome.
Religion isn't the "opium of the masses."
Religion is the methamphetamine of the masses.
There is no doubt in my mind that Hasan is crazy, with or without the religious element. There are so many options if you decide that you do not want to serve in uniform anymore. Granted, none of them are easy or pleasant, but I guarantee that all of them are a lot better than what Hasan did.
You can: 1) hire a lawyer and file for conscientious objector status; 2) hold a news conference and declare you are gay; 3) shoot yourself; 4) smoke some pot . . . the list goes on and on. Again, none of these alternatives are easy or pleasant, but it can be done. He could have gotten a general discharge (senior captains rarely get dishonorables unless they raped or killed someone) and gone into practice for himself. Although he doesn't seem like much of a doctor, but that's another issue.
Though I am a non-Christian minority, I am just sick of folks who feel uncomfortable in the U.S. and bitch about it all the time. Guess what, folks? If you don't like it here, you are free to return to Palestine/Europe/Africa/ Asia/Middle East or wherever your family is from. You don't HAVE to stay in the United States. I have a lot of cousins who didn't really like living in the US, and so decided to return back to Asia after getting their graduate degrees. And there is nothing wrong with that choice. I actually admire them. Instead of staying here in the US and getting angry at everyone around them for the cultural discomfort they felt, they worked to appreciate the best parts of American life and make some friends and integrate. And after a few years, when they decided that despite their best efforts, they still missed their homes and extended families and culture, they made an active choice to leave the US and go back home. There is nothing wrong with that choice, and I admire them for their courage in actively making a positive decision for themselves and their families. It's also worth noting that even though they returned home to their country of origin, they still are very appreciative of the educational opportunities they had here and still keep in contact with American friends they made.
I think the biggest problem with folks like Hasan is that they are cowards, plain and simple. He was too afraid to make a conscious choice to leave the U.S. and go to Palestine. Why? Because he was afraid to do it. He was born in the US, and like many of the second generation fools born here, he romanticized his religion and his family's country of origin, instead of being man enough to go back to his family's home country and see it for what it is.
Thank you.
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