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Good to see that bankster Corzine goin' down in New Jersey. Obama campaigned heavily in New Jersey for his crony from Goldman Sachs, and Corzine spent over 25 million dollars of his personal fortune trying to get himself re-elected.....but this time the people of New Jersey were not for sale to the highest bidder.

Yep, it was all over for Reagan and Bushs' when their parties lost big in the off year elections....

Whats funny is every time for both Dems and the GOP the media is Shocked, just Shocked when this happens even though it happens in nearly EVERY election cycle.

case1234: Whats funny is every time for both Dems and the GOP the media is Shocked, just Shocked when this happens even though it happens in nearly EVERY election cycle.
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LOL!

It's called trying to fill up the empty media airtime by trying to create drama where none exists.

Plantagenet,

In case you didn't know: From US News and world Report 1998

"Corzine did not fit the traditional mold of the well-connected financier who went to the right schools; he was born and raised in a southern Illinois farmhouse. Until his sudden resignation last week, he was preparing to offer shares to the public through an IPO. But the collapse of stock markets around the world, along with personality conflicts with top Goldman brass, took its toll. Heavy trading losses in 1998 caused Goldman's earnings to sink 80 percent. Perhaps more troubling for a firm that prides itself on camaraderie, Goldman insiders report that Corzine never got along with recently named co-CEO Henry Paulson Jr. (left). Paulson may consolidate the executive suite and continue Corzine's plan to go public by year's end."

But the Repubs swept the top 3 spots, Gov., Lt. Gov., and Attorney Gen.

That is surprisingly unusual. Nobody predicted that.

CNN and MSNBC were practically stuttering and crying, I couldnt wait to turn them on to see how they would spin it...It's a great day in America!

Spotted... glad you mentioned MSNBC... I flipped over to them shortly after 10pm when Chris Christie had been declared the winner and Corzine was moments away from giving his concession speech... and what to my (non) surprise was on MSNBC? Live coverage of tonight's events with unbiased commentary and up-to-the-minute election results, you say?

Nope... just a re-run of Bathtub Boy's earlier show! Somehow I doubt that would have been the case had the Dem candidates won in NJ and Virginia.

NOW tell me how biased "Faux News" is and how "fair and balanced" PMSNBC really is!

come on dragon, you can't just make thungs up. I watched maddow doing live coverage of results and accurate reporting all through the night.

Sorry, nightdragon09. "Fair and balanced" is a Fox News trademark - and lie.

MSNBC certainly has a liberal bias, at least in the evening (Morning Joe is your guy), but it does not lie like Fox News does.

Sorry SocialSecretion (ewww!)... I had already switched over to the alphabet networks for my local news long before 11pm rolled around... see, I had already gotten complete coverage of the NJ election from all the local stations as well as every cable news station EXCEPT for PMSNBC from 10-11pm... apparently re-runs of Bathtub Boy's Obama Hosannah hour were more important for some of you libs on here, but not for me.

AlanD2... care to back up your "Fox News lies" statement with actual facts, or is that above your pay-grade or something?

Oh, I just remembered an example... remember when Fox constantly repeated the false Rush Limbaugh comments about slavery and James Earl Ray in just about all of their prime-time lineups while citing them from such credible sources as Wikipedia and random lefty blog posts?

Oh wait... that was CNN and MSNBC. Never mind.

Fox news was disappointing to me, they didn't focus on the the elections as much as they were doing their own regular shows... CNN had more people talking about it than Fox Did...MSNBC had Keith and Rachel shows on, and were blasting the Republicans the whole time, bringing up all the failures of their party... But the good news VA & NJ won. I live in NJ and no way did I think a Republican would get past the BIG Democrat Get out the Vote Machine... Surprise Surprise, The Republicans had a get out the vote machine running full steam this time, I think it made a big difference for them..

Yes, that's what every democrat is saying tonight. Here is the real story of the sweep--independents voted OVERWHELMINGLY for the republican candidates, by 25% in Virginia, 20% in Jersey. This is a massive shift on independent voters, who resoundingly backed Obama last year, moving away from the democrats.

"wolverine1987" by independents you mean those people who don't want to call themselves republicans because they don't want to look bad. Look the only polls that matter for Obama is the one that will take place come 2012. By then you will know if your so called "independents" shift away from him.

Actually kord81... it was the registered Dems who didn't want to look bad by voting for Corzine, so they sat home. Voter turnout among heavily Democratic areas in NJ like Camden and Newark was drastically lower that it was last year, and Christie won southern, more Republican-leaning counties by huge margins, where voter turnout was just as high as it was during last year's presidential election.

Granite-

Good call.

This is interesting. It's not a "trend" and 2010 is still a long way off. Lots of time left for both Reps and Dims to further muck things up. We keep ACORN out of the 2010 vote and the voters will actually get to make choices. We'll see what we'll see.

Yes, waaaaay too much. In my state I voted for a democratic senator because he expressed that he was against the illegal Iraq invasion. One of his first votes after he was in office was to vote to continue the Iraq killing spree. When I asked him why he voted to continue the killing he replied he did it because he "loved the troops". So I asked, "if you love the troops then bring them home" He gave no reply. Our other democrat senator has been bought and paid for by the insurance industry. They have given him over 4 million dollars (Max Baucus). So please tell me what difference it makes whether it's a democrat or republican in office. They are all under control of the fascists. We have a fascist government. It needs to be broken up and decentralized before the "people" will ever regain power over their destinies. Obama has followed in the Bush footsteps simply because he is doing what he is told to do by the fascists. In fact he has expanded upon some of the Bush illicit and immoral programs going against his campaign promises

Bleat Bleat Bleat Teleprompter Bleat Bleat Bleat Teleprompter Bleat Bleat Bleat Teleprompter..................Yawn

Hey Plant, did you know that his approval ratings are still high in VA and that more than 55% percent of the people who voted said that O's record did not affect their decision? Of course you didn't.

Anyways, Congratulations!! Keep your head high so that next year we can bury you.

allonfla: I would like to agree with you, but 2010 does not look like a good year for Democrats.

I think we will have to wait for 2012, and Obama's reelection, to bury Republican aspirations.

Palin for President in 2012 - the Democratic dream!

They believe that Obama is receiving messages from the teleprompter that's why they started the "war on teleprompter". If Obama used the same pen when giving a speech, they would start a "war on pens". Republicans are stupid that way. And Plant is dumber than most.

and the libs need to drop the Bush blame game

@ elldeen..

because Plant-A-Lie..has nothing else relevant to say about President Obama.. in fact .it's ignorance and idiotic!..

When in fact President Geo W Bush Jr., used a telepromter EVERY single TIME he spoke.. so not to appear dumber than he was speaking like a 4th grader..he HID the telepromters behind the camera he faced and read like a 4th grader..

.and so President Obama is not a hinding the telepromter to insight his speeches....neither did Geo W H Bush Sr., hid the a telepromter..or other republican presidents.. what is plant - a Lie's point to continue to mention about a telepromter and president Obama.. its senselss.. more a narcissistic behaviour....

cry If obama is receiving messages on his telepromter who's ever on the other end should be FIRED.

I wouldn't get too happy about this if I were you and osea 65. You righties put way too much stock in polls, and they can change like the weather or the stock market.

elldeen--

You are so right.

It feels like everyday someone here mentions a new poll.

elld-

Say what you will, but if you go back and read the posts of the liberal TDBers there is no doubt that they felt the GOP was bound for "the Ash Heap of History". I do believe that phrase was typed a few thousand times by the haters on this site

Better yet, sparky can keep 2 cents and you can keep the "change".

Your attempt to be clever failed miserably. Just thought you should know.

AlanD New Jersey and Virgina are the BIG ones thats all we care about. I guess the Tea Bag protesters are more important then you thought, they came out in full force. This is the will of the people, they have spoken and this is just the beginning.

So glenda put it in plain English what does the government spend taxes on and what are they used for?. And while you at it what are these socialist agenda you speak of?

Glenda: Why do you prefer the Republican "borrow and spend" strategy over the Democratic "tax and spend" one?

You do remember that Reagan, Bush 41, and Bush 43 raised our national debt by $9 trillion, don't you? Your kids and grandchildren will be paying for this all their lives.

@yGlenda1976

your party still lost a congressional seat..regardless..

Sorry DD3075 there is no such thing as conservatism in this country....gosh! you people are delusional. Calling the other side "libs" doesn't make you a conservative. If you can find me the last Republican president who called himself a conservative and never raised taxes, or actually balanced the budget then I think you are genius.

It isn't, he just likes saying that his vote about LOCAL issues somehow has to do with the Whitehouse. It doesn't. ALL POLITICS IS LOCAL.

@ warehouseone..

i..sn't that what i said in my initial comment?.. exactely what laughorcryagain did as a voter and what many voters did upon a local election.. when it was the PUBS.. under the bush administration that bailed the banks out on wall street on a covert stimulus package.. when in fact president obama inherited a deficit higher than any decicit this nation has seen given by the republicans?... when in fact clinton gave president BUSH a surplus economy?...and all BUSH did with the surplus was bankrupt this nation.. you PPL never learn..

You should not spend money you do not have. Didn't your mom and dad teach you that?
Sometimes it's necessary to tighten your belt and sacrifice. It's a fact of life, case1234

You didn't answer the question Prickly. If you want your taxes lower which services do you want the state to stop delivering?? That's the problem with you "conservatives". Like Bush, you want tax-cuts but services to remain the same or add on more things which leads to unbalanced budgets and increased deficits. You want to have your cake and eat it too.

Maybe you start looking for efficiencies of operation. Maybe you look at union contracts. Maybe you look at why each level of government has a diversity office. Maybe you look to privatize some government services. Maybe you look at the way tax payer dollars are allocated to the school districts (not pretty and run by the NJ Supreme Court). Maybe you furlough state employees two days a month. Maybe you put in a hiring freeze, offer early retirement (the unions will love that one). Maybe you propose legislation that prohibits state workers from unionizing.

Just some back of the napkin thoughts.

Vote the sombitches out.

You're crazy. Where do live, Morristown, Haddonfield? A friend of mine owns a house in Haddonfield worth about $700,000 and pays about $25,000. Complain to your Mayor and Town Council. They set the tax rates and assessments.

I live in NY but have a home in wildwood Crest The house is worth about $450.000

WTF? What do you expect for a vacation home down the shore?

I doubt it, Plant. I think that the 2010 elections will determine Obama's position on issues. Clinton was more politically astute. I'm still waiting for Obama to call the shots............

if they keep winning it'll be their problem but the dems are still up to bat.

No economic vision. Like Herbert Hoover, he's surrounded himself with elite institutional thinkers; like the ones who designed this economic collapse.

The problem is that they're on the wrong track; and confident, no less!

how true it is... go Yanks

Carole: You really shouldn't say such impolite things about Christie and his singing.

The '08 election was not for "progressives" anyway, Carol65. The election was against Bush. The election was against the Republicans who always put party and themselves first and our U.S.A. last.

Carole65: But when you choose to ride the wave of massive spending in down economy.
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Econ 101 Carole. When the private sector isn't spending money and the country is heading into a depression, the government HAS to spend money. That was the lesson of the depression. Even conservative economics know that. Only the ignorant or the delusional are not aware of that. That is why China had a GDP of over 8% for the year: government spending in the face of an approaching depression. And that is why China can now afford to keep buying our debt.

See what happens when you drop out of elementary school?

crymeariver: The 2008 TARP package and the 2009 stimulus packaged stopped the bleeding in the financial markets. The problem is that only one third of it has been spent,and I will concede that it takes time for the money to filter through various agencies before it can be further effective. Wouldn't it make more sense to see how effective those packages have been before piling on other massive spending programs.
In China a good portion of their stimulus package went to cutting taxes, They also increased teachers' pay and low income housing projects. So far in the US the 2 packages have gone to bailing out banks, investment entities, and a few road projects. Main street has still not felt stimulated, so they're paying off their debt and saving instead of spending. That, in itself, is a good thing in the long run, but businesses are still not hiring and unemployment is still rising. Therefore, the tax base is shrinking and this government will be hard pressed to fund their spending proposals.
See what happens when you think beyond Econ 101............

Now that's funny. Just this morning you kooks were crowing about how you were going to win the NY23 and sweep them all, but this one was the most important. Now it doesn't matter? Apparently, YOUR Messiah Sarah, just couldn't cut it, now could she. And that Tpaw--my Gd, he must be spinning like wild!

rhonda1309 It's time to sing KUMBAYA

Sadly, with some "conservatives", their misogynistic and/or racist ideologies are never too far below the surface - too bad you can't gloat without resorting to truly distasteful and pointless sexist slurs.

Really? And I thought it was to rip off the Indians.

You obviously missed my previous comment, up the page.

In case you didn't know: From US News and world Report 1998

"Corzine did not fit the traditional mold of the well-connected financier who went to the right schools; he was born and raised in a southern Illinois farmhouse. Until his sudden resignation last week, he was preparing to offer shares to the public through an IPO. But the collapse of stock markets around the world, along with personality conflicts with top Goldman brass, took its toll. Heavy trading losses in 1998 caused Goldman's earnings to sink 80 percent. Perhaps more troubling for a firm that prides itself on camaraderie, Goldman insiders report that Corzine never got along with recently named co-CEO Henry Paulson Jr. (left). Paulson may consolidate the executive suite and continue Corzine's plan to go public by year's end."